Post by megtoothsith on Jun 11, 2017 17:03:21 GMT -5
The other night on my MAKO MHS saber (thread in saber section, including video showing it working) crapped out. The series that led to this was: I was using the saber, everything working fine. It was running for almost an hour. I went to put it on charge. Battery charged, green light on TCSS smart charger. Charged through 2.1mm recharge port. Unplugged charger from saber, no boot sound. Saber won't do anything. Loose wire? Hosed battery? Sound card corrupt? I checked all those things. I'm still getting 4.2 volts at board from battery, so it is charged and delivering voltage. It also received charge from charger, this 4.2 volts. Pulled the sound card, wiped, and re-formatted. Re-insert....nothing. NADA. There is 0 response from the saber to anything. 4.2 volts at input pads.
Do you think that a static spark from charger when I plugged it in could have fried something in board? I've charged this saber with the same charger 15 times, and no issues. Seeing if anyone has a clue before I disassemble to send off to Washington.
Post by saberconcepts on Jun 11, 2017 20:48:28 GMT -5
I thought I had the very latest version of the config editor, same dates and everything, but when I redownloaded it there was a couple different parameters and when I opened/saved the fonts, reformatted the SD card and copied the fonts over it worked again. I was even able to talk one of my customers through the same process and it worked for him too.
Post by megtoothsith on Jun 11, 2017 21:25:15 GMT -5
Its not the card. I downloaded latest editor off saberigniter.com, re-opened config files in all 6 fonts and saved. Re-formatted micro SD. Saved config files back to Micro SD, still nothing. Totally dead. No accent LED activity or lighted switch activity. I have my lighted switch hooked up to static accent LED pad 7.
As soon as you pull the kill key, the switch would light up, and the accent LED's did their thing. Now nothing. I was going to swap batteries tomorrow to see if something is screwy there. If I get the same result after battery swap? I guess I unsolder the board from saber and send it off? I think its hosed somehow. Its never done this.
Post by megtoothsith on Jun 14, 2017 9:16:32 GMT -5
Will put photos on this post before I change to a different 18650. I am reading 4.2 volts on the pads. Been crazy busy at work this week. Speaker wire broke off when I was taking the chassis apart, I'll re-solder that if I get accent light on new battery.
Switch Wires, shrink is on because the insulation was thin from helping hands under heat. Shrunk it to assure no shorts. Common LED lead anode from Main LED/CC Led (RGB) is yellow wire here. White wire is negative board feed from recharge port. Red Wire is positive feed from recharge port.
Accent/Illuminated switch LED's. Common anode is Orange wire hooked to VLED+. 1,2,3 are main accent LED's on the programmable pads. Illuminated switch wired to constant on accent pad 7.
LED connects on Pads C1,C2,C3 (RGB) color wires match LED.
Bridges between Gd, C1, C2, C3 from Main Board to True Drive Section. I bridged from underneath with solid core wire soldered on front (through hole method). No bridge on C4, because I'm only using a tri-cree. Didn't need C4.
Accent LED's on main pads 1,2,3 and illuminated switch on Pad 7. VCC (orange wire) is positive common for all accent LED's including illuminated switch. Crystal Chamber is paired up in parallel with Main LED.
Last Edit: Jul 13, 2017 0:22:44 GMT -5 by megtoothsith: photobucket hosed us all
Post by megtoothsith on Jun 14, 2017 12:58:27 GMT -5
By the way, when I plugged in the recharge port, the charger was plugged into the wall, and I believe there was a discharge. I think it zapped my board. I don't believe I had wiring issues, the saber ran just fine for a month. I think the recharger zapped it, because I should have unplugged the recharger before I plugged it into the saber. It is a TCSS 3.7/7.4 battery sensing smart charger. I'm almost certain that is what caused this mess.
I'm going to try a different battery tonight, but I don't think the battery is the issue.
Post by megtoothsith on Jun 14, 2017 16:42:11 GMT -5
Edited photos with better quality photos. FYI, this board was encased in TCSS chassis disks (NB disks modified to fit SC2). There were 3 disks on board. The front end of my chassis are the metal tcss disks with holes for wires. I used the metal disks to secure chassis into hilt with set screw into the metal disks from the outside of hilt. The speaker holder is the type that locks into the hilt as well, once the pommel is tightened. So, the chassis was totally secured inside the hilt fore and aft. Furthermore, there were no solder points that would have been in contact with hilt, the chassis disks would have prevented that.
I have looked at all my solder points under magnification, and there are no bridges between any of the pads. Again, this saber worked for a month, and there is video of it working. This leads me to believe that the charger emitted a static charge that zapped the board somehow.
If the board was zapped, is it repairable? I love this saber, I love this board. I believe the lesson I'm taking from all of this is: plug in recharger into saber, then plug in recharger. This is how all my dive electronics instructions are, and I failed to heed that. I think when I was plugging in the saber, that I zapped the board. I'm totally disgusted with myself over this. Building Graflex this weekend to dull the pain. Will send board to Scott for potential repairs....and another one I KNOW I HOSED.
Last Edit: Jul 13, 2017 0:25:01 GMT -5 by megtoothsith: photobucket hosed us all
Post by megtoothsith on Jun 24, 2017 21:52:05 GMT -5
Board on the way to Scott, and sending him another that I know I HOSED up. I can't wait to get Mako back up and running again. If he can repair my second board, I'm gonna re-do one of my Kylo Sabers with FOC. Plus, to have 6 fonts onboard, that will be crazy! Anxiously awaiting the verdict on the boards.
Post by megtoothsith on Jul 3, 2017 21:55:16 GMT -5
Mako is back up and running! Video rendering! Thank you so much to Scott and NEC! This is my favorite saber. NEC's customer service is awesome. I am pretty sure I fried this board with a charger. I installed the repaired board tonight and Mako is back in business!!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Igniter is going in my next install, MPP for my 501st Vader Build. My saber will be piece number 1 to the new costume. The Igniter should bring a whole level of wow to the deal, and knowing NEC is behind me will be awesome!
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